Solo airways Points event 1: Registration is OPEN

[Leafy]

I don't  think I can offer you a ride AT the event, but it would be no problem giving you a ride TO the event if you're going to be at school.

-Bryan

I have it all handled, thanks though.

[ZeroMOA]

Isn't RallyX still SCCA/
Toe arms throw you into Street Modified.
If the exhaust is stock up to (and including) the cat, and you also had the stock suspension, yes.
It depends on where they're located, and what class you're competing in.
Only if they exceed the sound limit applied at a given site (i.e. 91db at 75ft at Devens)
Yes.
Then why do you have them?
No problem.

RallyX is SCCA but classes are more drive type dependent (AWD, FWD, RWD) and then split into Stock, Prepared and Mod from there, but the rules are laid out differently (easier to read and self classify IMHO).

OK, so downpipe and dump would put me in prepared?

I got the toe arms because they were less than 1/3 the price of OEM replacement

[pj]

OK, so downpipe and dump would put me in prepared?

No.  The downpipe and dump would put you in STU if the dump pipe was after the cat and the exhaust exited the car behind the driver.  Otherwise, it'd put you in ASP if you've removed the cat.

I got the toe arms because they were less than 1/3 the price of OEM replacement

They put you in Street Modified if they're not OEM equivolent.

[Gus Heck]

OK, so downpipe and dump would put me in prepared?

I got the toe arms because they were less than 1/3 the price of OEM replacement

No need to go to prepared. Unless you go to OEM toe arms, you are SM. FWIW toe arms installed by the previous owner are the original mod that got me into SSM...

[ZeroMOA]

Alright so it looks like I will be swapping toe arms from my other Evo (like I said, I only put aftermarket ones on because one arm went bad it it was less $ to "upgrade") and I'll leave the dump off. Downpipe and catback while keeping the cat would be prepared (no dump)? STU ASP and SSM stand for what?

[Gus Heck]

Alright so it looks like I will be swapping toe arms from my other Evo (like I said, I only put aftermarket ones on because one arm went bad it it was less $ to "upgrade") and I'll leave the dump off. Downpipe and catback while keeping the cat would be prepared (no dump)? STU ASP and SSM stand for what?

STU is "Street Touring Ultra" one of 6 or so Street Touring classes (no R-Comps, a few more mods than stock)
ASP is "A Street Prepared" one of 8 or so "Street Prepared" classes (R-Comp tires, moderate mods)
SSM is "Super Street Modified" one of three Street Modified classes (Many Mods)

Overall, the level of modification (and therefore expense) increases in this order:

Stock
Street Touring
Street Prepared
Street Modified
Prepared
Modified

Some argue that Stock is more expensive however since staying competitive means buying whole new cars instead of adding parts . Note that Street Prepared and Street Modified are quite different from Prepared and Modified. Only Street Touring requires road tires, all other categories (including stock) allow R-Comps.

You should take the time and download the PDF of the rulebook from the SCCA site and read the relevant sections yourself. The class system is explained there. In the end it's your responsibility to verify your compliance.

[ZeroMOA]

STU is "Street Touring Ultra" one of 6 or so Street Touring classes (no R-Comps, a few more mods than stock)
ASP is "A Street Prepared" one of 8 or so "Street Prepared" classes (R-Comp tires, moderate mods)
SSM is "Super Street Modified" one of three Street Modified classes (Many Mods)

Overall, the level of modification (and therefore expense) increases in this order:

Stock
Street Touring
Street Prepared
Street Modified
Prepared
Modified

Some argue that Stock is more expensive however since staying competitive means buying whole new cars instead of adding parts . Note that Street Prepared and Street Modified are quite different from Prepared and Modified. Only Street Touring requires road tires, all other categories (including stock) allow R-Comps.

You should take the time and download the PDF of the rulebook from the SCCA site and read the relevant sections yourself. The class system is explained there. In the end it's your responsibility to verify your compliance.

Thank you Gus. I understand it is my responsibility and I have read the rulebook but I am just trying to make sure I understand it correctly. From what I read it looks like with a downpipe, stock cat, and catback I am ok to be considered stock class since it says downstream of headers OR cat (pg 79) so I take that as downstream from headers = OK and downstream from cat = OK, but cat must remain. I am putting this to the group since I am sure I am not the first one to question this poor wording and I would like to benefit from any precedent that you all could share. So, I think I am BS class (B Stock), right?

[pzahornasky]

From the book:

Any part of the exhaust system beyond (downstream from) the header/
manifold or catalytic converter, if so equipped, may be substituted
or removed provided the system meets the requirements of 3.5 and
3.3.3.B.15.

What this means is that if you have a catalytic converter (or more than one), then you can only replace what comes after the cat.  Everything before the cat must remain stock.


Edit:  After reading the Rallycross rules, I could see where you might get confused as that rule, while essentially the same, only says that exhaust is free cat back.  No mention of a header or manifold.  But the rally-x rules were written when all cars have cats while the Solo rules were developed when not every car came with one.

[ZeroMOA]

From the book:

Any part of the exhaust system beyond (downstream from) the header/
manifold or catalytic converter, if so equipped, may be substituted
or removed provided the system meets the requirements of 3.5 and
3.3.3.B.15.

What this means is that if you have a catalytic converter (or more than one), then you can only replace what comes after the cat.  Everything before the cat must remain stock.


Edit:  After reading the Rallycross rules, I could see where you might get confused as that rule, while essentially the same, only says that exhaust is free cat back.  No mention of a header or manifold.  But the rally-x rules were written when all cars have cats while the Solo rules were developed when not every car came with one.

See, I read it as "header/manifold or cat, if so equipped" meaning that if the car was equipped with headers/manifold then downstream from that, and if it was equipped with a cat, then also downstream from that, but not necessarily upstream from the cat being off limits. That is also the most logical rule IMHO since it would seem the way you are reading it gives unfair advantage to cars not equipped with cats, since they are allowed more mods. I don't particularly care either way, but it sounds like the consensus is that downpipes (pre cat) are not allowed in stock class. I am going to call myself STU and be done with it then.

[Leafy]

Hey can someone bring toe plates to the first event? I just confirmed with Emillio that my suspension will be here by friday so I wont have time to get it aligned before the event. My camber should be fine, might be a tad too much But I know I'll have too much toe in in the rear and the front toe already needs to get fixed to straighten the steering wheel.

[Jenna]

We usually have them in our trailer.

[Leafy]

Cool thanks.

[jrhavener]

Hey Everyone!
    Still trying to get work off for Saturday, but no luck yet.  In addition to that issue, I'm still trying to prepare the schools '82 Formula Ford Van Diemen for use.  Anyone know if I should be running a specific type of OIL or fuel?  I remember something about using ZDDP or something?  All of this is of course if I can mount the tires, and find the leak.... get the trailer ready.  Find the school van...

Or I could just drive my 03 Cooper S.

Oh yeah, I should probably update my profile so it doesn't say Corolla.

Jon
(Previously HS12 - Green 2004 Corolla)

[Leafy]

Hey can someone bring toe plates to the first event? I just confirmed with Emillio that my suspension will be here by friday so I wont have time to get it aligned before the event. My camber should be fine, might be a tad too much But I know I'll have too much toe in in the rear and the front toe already needs to get fixed to straighten the steering wheel.

Soooo I totally just got a tracking # today from 949 racing that is giving me the inactive I havent been scanned at the facility deal. Might totally be running on some old billies unless fedex pulls off a miracle. 

[l4m3r]

Dear god, 163 entries for the first event?  I know people were really begging for those RT classes, but that's not enough to explain doubling our entry count vs. the first event of 2011.

At any rate, it's awesome to see so much interest, hopefully we're doing something right as a club and we can keep it going.